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Yes, I was scammed on Digital Point Forums (DP) for the very first time in my life. At the moment, the case is still being reviewed by PayPal and the outcome has not been resolved yet. Anyway, this all began when I saw this thread advertising a vBulletin license for sale at the price of $75 — which is really very cheap — considering that the original price being sold by Jelsoft, the creators of vBulletin, is $180.

I sent a private message (PM) to the seller as soon as I saw that and I sent the payment almost immediately after confirmation. It did not occur to me to check his iTrader or posting history because he mentioned TriPHP Forums, which is a webmaster forum that I used to hang out and I assumed that he must have been the owner (now that I come to think of it, maybe he never really did owned TriPHP).

After the sale was confirmed, we exchanged PMs for a couple of minutes, and he asked me to which e-mail address he would like me to have the details sent to, as he prefers not to use PMs as a method of communication.

I replied asking the DP poster to send the details (even though I’d already stated that previously) to my e-mail, repeating the very same e-mail address that I already gave him earlier.

All the above happened on 3rd January 2009.

After this last PM, all communications between him and me went to an abrupt halt. I was wondering why was it taking so long for him to send me the details? I waited for at least another 24 hours before sending this next PM. This was sent on January 4th 2009.

I waited yet another 24 hours and seeing that he did not reply, I opened a PayPal dispute, hoping that this was all merely a mistake and he simply did not have time to check his PMs on DP. Note however, that I made a PayPal dispute, not a claim for the payment made. This explanation from PayPal should make it clear the difference between a dispute and a claim.

This was on 5th January 2009. The next day, I received a notification e-mail from PayPal stating that the seller escalated the case to a claim. I was stupefied when I realised what was happening.

In the dispute form, I have made all effort to be civil by requesting the seller to provide me with the vB license details or just refund the money if he is unable to do so. I was still hoping that this was just a mere miscommunication when I opened the dispute and the purpose of a dispute is to resolve any issues between the buyer and the seller, as stated earlier by the PayPal description above. However, as you can see below, the seller was the one who escalated the case to a claim and at the same time claims that I am lying and that I had received the “script” (actually license) but simply want to cheat him out of his money.

I really wanted this license and I thought maybe this guy really was honest, so I tried to clear any misunderstanding between us by sending a rather long PM explaining why I opened the dispute and requesting that he sent the vB license in return for a cancelling of the claim in PayPal, but all I got was a very rude reply.

This person has the cheek to say this after ignoring my PMs on DP for all this while! And he even gave me a -iTrader out of spite and try to cast blame upon me by claiming that I was the one who is trying to cheat him!

Excuse me, sir….who is the one actually paying here? I have nothing to gain if I were the one who is scamming this person. Like his -iTrader is going to do anything to me, since I already have 33 iTraders! Needless to mention, I gave him an iTrader that he truly deserved.

Anyway, I really hope that PayPal will decide the claim in my favour. All I want from the exposure of this debacle is for the truth to be clear from error and may God Almighty repay him with what he deserve for trying to cheat me for a pittance of a gain in the Hereafter.

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  1. hyperX
    Posted January 10, 2009 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    Oh gosh. After reading your post, I’ll be careful next time.

  2. lankapo
    Posted January 10, 2009 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    dear friend,

    sorry to hear your scammed experience, I was smamed also but only for USD 3 for a huge list of e-book. When I check back at the thread, he was already banned by DP. I sent email and PM but he never replied.

    ok, I have 2 questions. 1.what is i-trader and its importance ?
    2. what to check when we want to buy something in DP?

    thanks,
    lankapo

  3. Bryan
    Posted January 10, 2009 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    Seriously, I would never trade with anyone without iTrader rating of more than 10 and been trading for more than 6 months. DP is full of scammers nowadays, just have to be extra careful. Good luck with your dispute!

  4. Amanda
    Posted February 1, 2009 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    I am sorry to hear about all your troubles. I did read in your latest entry though that Paypal did resolve in your favor. Did they only recover $.57 out of $75? I’m not familiar with the forum or place that you mentioned – is it better to just stay away from it than?

    Admin: Yes, they have recovered $0.57 out of the $75 that I was scammed out of. Still haven’t received the rest of the sum yet 🙁

  5. Tony
    Posted September 6, 2009 at 1:39 am | Permalink

    LOL — Try this — Let paypal also be the holding center. Send email asking that he send the license to paypal — Then paypal can send to you. You then will get your licence or he will be found a scammer. This also lets paypal have an option to tell whos is telling the truth. Ir hes not willing to send to paypal — well then he really is the scammmer

  6. Wayne
    Posted September 14, 2009 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Just be thankful it was only $75. I’ve seen forum trades and sales where longtime members w/ high post counts etc. scam people out of hundreds of dollars. Re-sending the license isn’t that hard to get the deal squared away. He probably never even had one to begin with. Hope you got more than the 57cents back.

  7. stupido
    Posted December 20, 2009 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    dp is the most stupid forum i ever seen they only allowed white ppl to be exact USA ppl only to work there, they ban all foreigner all asian from earn a living there, I hope we all unite and boycott this stupid mother fucker shawn until zeo come to them until then they will think hard

  8. tomy
    Posted February 25, 2010 at 8:51 pm | Permalink

    Hey,

    Why you are banned at DP ? http://forums.digitalpoint.com/member.php?u=27708

  9. User
    Posted March 15, 2010 at 3:07 am | Permalink

    @Tomy,
    Because Digitalpoint bans almost everyone for wrong reasons.
    I was banned for having multiple accounts there when one of them was my bro!

  10. ProBusinessGuy
    Posted June 25, 2010 at 6:24 am | Permalink

    I hate scammers i really do. As a seller who has made over 1000$ this year selling on digital point im sorry to see there are people like this in the world. Dont worry im sure he will get what is coming to him.

  11. hanep
    Posted August 9, 2010 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    ok. now its my turn. usd160 for whmcs license unbranded version selling at another forum.

    seller give so many excuses, that it will take 2 days for progress, then he was out of weekend, then not replying my email.

    now i have opened a dispute. can i know, have you got your money back? (is it that we WILL get our money back after open a dispute?)

    i have no experience opening a dispute, instead of receiving dispute (more that $1000 of them) due fake payments last few years.

  12. LoveMe
    Posted August 14, 2010 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    I hate them there. They are nothing but scum bags who have members who play close to NOTHING for real designers then I have gotten scammed there TWICE and one lady I found on there wanted 15 different revisions for a $15 payment – I guess she got her money worth huh.

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